"Indeed, there's no need for false modesty."

Was he talking about Ishida Mitsunari? Fuu had gotten used to speaking to one historical figure, but hearing him so casually mention those names reminded her again how strange this was. And since Otani had apparently come here after his death, what did he know about the fate of those two men? She knew that Shima, at least, had died after the battle, even if historians didn't know the exact circumstances. Ishida's fate was more definite: captured and executed. Otani seemed to be so casual about his own demise, but would he feel the same way about the death of his comrades?

"Shima Sakon must have been a worthy opponent indeed," she said. "Though I've never heard how well he did or didn't take care of himself. What games did you play?" And now she was referring to other people in the past tense. But it would be too awkward to act as though she had never heard the names before. It would probably be better to introduce the topic of era, which would justify everyone being 'had' and 'was', not just the people who had followed Ishida.